What does Socrates mean on p. 243 when he complains about Meno’s love freedom? Are Meno’s weaknesses as a student like those of the resistant students in the cave allegory? Or are they different?
Socrates says that loves his freedom so much in 86E that “you try to control me and you do.” By being so focused on keeping his freedom of choice, ends up controlling the learning process. The implication is that if we are always trying to meet the needs of our students and respecting their freedom, then they truly control the learning process. The teacher loses freedom because their teaching process is controlled by the needs of the learner.
This is a different way of thinking for me, and something I have never considered in-depth before, but I do feel that we get our best results working with the students and if that means valuing the freedom of the student over the freedom of the teacher at times, then that is a path we need to follow, even if it means that we take longer to reach our desired destination in the learning process.
Both and the students in the cave allegory want to be comfortable. One wants to feel free, while the other wants to return to the only life they know, but both want to continue down the path that they are familiar with. As mentioned, I feel that educators need to respect the experiences of the students, but not at the expense of best practices. We want them to be interested and feeling good about the process, but we also need to make them feel uncomfortable at times, as I mentioned in my previous post about reading strategies and multiplication strategies, even if it makes the student feel uncomfortable or that their freedom is being constrained, in order for them to continue on their learning journey, gaining greater skills along the way.
Plato. . Reason and Persuasion: Three Dialogues by Plato, 4th, translated by Belle Waring, commentary and illustrations by John Holbo, Holbo and Waring, 2016, pp. 211-263, examinedlife.typepad.com/files/randpwholebook-1.pdf